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Old Jan 21, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49   #1
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Can anyone tell me the rate of attack on the daggers? Are they faster or slower than the sword?
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Old Jan 21, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00   #2
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I think someone said they were equal, but not sure.
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Old Jan 21, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01   #3
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faster.
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Old Jan 21, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #4
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faster cant u see em slashin away at thin air
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Old Jan 21, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #5
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i think its normally quite near the sword attack rate, but the fact it has a chance to "double swing" its faster
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Old Jan 21, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #6
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faster cant u see em slashin away at thin air
Looks can be deceiving. If that's true because you observed it, I would be getting around 2x more damage with axe because he swings twice a lot.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32   #7
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its hugely faster than the sword, try using a zealous set of daggers, youll see.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39   #8
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Vampiric + Flurry/Frenzy/Tiger's Fury + IWAY = Super fast life steal
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47   #9
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Yeah, I just used it in Random Arena with a basic IW (never thought you'd hear that again did you LOL) and it is devastating. Even against monks, it kills even faster than they heal if you have Flurry on. (16 Illusion too of course)
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04   #10
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Vampiric + Flurry/Frenzy/Tiger's Fury + IWAY = Super fast life steal
IAS is capped at 133% so adding an IAS stance and IWAY does absolutely NOTHING!!!

There was an update about that you would think people would learn by now.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11   #11
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^NerF?
It's the same speed as a sword. Time it yourself
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 03:21 AM // 03:21   #12
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IAS is capped at 133% so adding an IAS stance and IWAY does absolutely NOTHING!!!

There was an update about that you would think people would learn by now.
I don't pay attention to the technical ones, i thought it went to 150% or something, either way its just as effective
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25   #13
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thats a great idea, these people playing this weekend wont bring enchant removers
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58   #14
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Question after this "So should I use a IW mesmer with daggers?"

Well if the duel strike thingy means you do 2 IW damges then yes. However I will have to test.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01   #15
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IAS is capped at 133% so adding an IAS stance and IWAY does absolutely NOTHING!!!

There was an update about that you would think people would learn by now.
The update log says it's capped at 133%, but IWAY + Tiger's is noticably faster!? Weird...

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Old Jan 22, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09   #16
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Question after this "So should I use a IW mesmer with daggers?"

Well if the duel strike thingy means you do 2 IW damges then yes. However I will have to test.
It does. I have tried.
Also, each seperate dagger is as fast as a sword.. But there is two of em, so thats much more hits.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12   #17
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Maybe it only looks faster? I dont know. It does look faster to me when I tried it.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50   #18
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looks a bit faster to me as well...
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41   #19
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Dagger attack speed is approximately 1 second per swing. A dual strike gets counted as a single swing.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47   #20
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Question after this "So should I use a IW mesmer with daggers?"

Well if the duel strike thingy means you do 2 IW damges then yes. However I will have to test.
You should use IW with Me/W with Flurry and assn. Dagers and I will avenge you to me it seems that IWAY and Flurry stack along wiht daggers it will go uber and i mean uber fast
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